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ECHO OF THURSDAY AND FRIDAY, 26th and 27th of October

Re-packing the suitcases
We are asked not to stay.
Going to ESC with our suitcases
and see:
if we can unpack,
go through the frequencies,
different de-modelling methods,
different antenna positions.

I am here and everything,
but I am
like oooh
I don't know how to make it apply.
But:
that
was the thing I could make apply.

[Sound: A loud, scratchy, ripping sound
repeats several times,
while a very soft choir sings in the background.]

and....action!
what was the highlight of your day?

How do you create spaces,
that,
you know,
not everyone has access to,
But the people that need it
can find it?
I think that is the question.

The question of
degrees of access
and degrees of visibility and safety
of online spaces
You have different ways to create filters
So that the people who pass through this filter
feel safe
without necessarily having degrees of
hierarchy or membership
Maybe some mapping?
of different techniques
where this could be achieved,
or comparing previous experiences
or desires for future things?

I have to explain
my messy,,,,,,
my messy files

i might be able to use salted water
(for example, the sea itself)
as a ground,
also there's a possibility
to build a listening device
via mullberry and kombucha,
maybe.

What the hell is water?
I have to watch out that I don't put water on the machine

[Image: A basin is placed directly upon a toilet.
On the toilet it is written 'Trinkwasser'.
A book is resting on the toilet flush.
The bricks of the walls are painted in white, black and red.]

8 pilars:
* well functioning governement.
* equitable distribution of resources.
* free flow of information.
* good relations with neighbors.
* high levels of human capital.
* rights of others acceptance.
* good anti corruption index.
* sound business environment.

attitudes,
structures creating sustaining peaceful societies

Oh!
This kind of ...
Damn!

There are a lot of vulnerabilities
and how responsible do we become?
Or,
how much can we spread the responsabilties
through the group entirely.

-yeah.
YEAH.

free flow of information improved,
but the quality is not measured

....doing coding...

which is a bit depressing?..

you just want a goulash in the place

[sound: a snippet from an italian podcast
in which a journalist
tries to discover what are, according to tradition,
the typical dishes for the 15th of August menu
among Barivecchia housewives, restaurateurs and gourmets.
A woman mentions plates such as 'braciole', 'polpette', 'agnello, 'involtino'.
Sound of oil, frying in a pan.
Laughters.
Between all these delicacies, the interviewer is interested in the recepie of the famous 'braciolone':
pepper, salt, fry the meat in the pan, and you have a 'ragu'.
For the owner of a restaurant, sea foods and fish are the must.
A long list of 'primi' and 'secondi piatti' follows.
All this in one meal of course.
Sound of boiling water.
The interviewer is worried that all this food is a bit too much.
The cook answers: these are only just the appetisers.]

The body.
The body work
I am interested in
It's a technology
but it's a different type of technology
it is one that has such history
and tradition
But I don't know how to take that,
especially into a pad context.
To apply it in the context of this worksession.
It is how
body work works too,
is that
you have to kind of
know what your body is.
So how to take
that technology
and center it
into something that's really key?

The connection with the body work
I think
some people feel discomfort
and some people feel comfort
But I don't know if you want to navigate that tension zone?
- Well, that's what I do.

Seems very crucial

[Image: a work station in a workshop,
crowded with hand tools,
power tools,
and support structures.
It looks very dusty.]

researching what
certain unrecognizable channels could be
Later, a transmitter,
we tried to transmit
a long Limbo
from Jassie Lanza,
and listen to it via radio.

it took us 40 minutes
to be able to hear it for 5 seconds,

but it was still super fun
yay
yay
yay

[Image: two people are leaning intently on a table while looking at some circuits through a big magnifying glass.]

[Sound: A soft, continous static noise.
It sounds like light rain, with a bit of hail, on a window pane.]

What I'm saying now,
just as a disclaimer,
I don't want to invite anyone to do anything illegal.
Please first check your local laws

advertisement
and what you can do about it
Modifying advertisement content
subvertise & advertise at the same time
develop methods, examples
critique of the system
billboard hacking
Brandalism

Capitalism has always been very good
at also selling the criticism of itself

toolkit for survival

Stamping of feet,
clapping of hands,
gyration of upper bodies,
swirling of hips
were all ways that holy ghosts
were either awakened,
or other spirits were welcomed or chased away.

[Sound: The static noise goes on, still soft.
It sounds like a fly stuck in a lampshade.
Or a pot on the stove with water boiling over the edges.]

one messed up layer:
How the economy of the internet
is fuelled by
targeted advertisment and profiling.

It is something about how advertisement got to the base
of how the current internet works
even intervowen with infrastructures
and the dependencies we have.

More of a fundamental critique
that I don't know yet
how to formulate.

[Sound: The soft static noise continues.
We have received information that it is the sound of the Splinter server.]

We talked about thinking of communicating through using a:
Concentric circle…

En ja, je ziet het, eh?
Wij zijn helemaal vermengd
met de privé sfeer
van anderen

you can become "friends" with the animal villagers
by giving them gifts
and they often give you something in return.

Der liggen nog apparaten
rondt ons
maar ook vooral
veel mensen
en jah!
smakelijk!
- Danku.

Clapping

THIS CONCLUDES ALL THE ECHOS
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ECHO OF WEDNESDAY, 25th of October

suitcases are in ESC
not even opened.
the programme changed,
unzipped,
zipped
under the table.
...
Arrived.
unpacking the suitcases
Installed a preliminary setup.

Please share
about togetherness/exclusion
how to extend forms of solidarity
dealing with conflict

slogans
a good slogan to write on a wall,
printing scarfs,
a song you made, some writing,
a drawing you did, something disobedient

[Image: Three persons are standing facing each other in a workshop.
On a drying rack next to them lay three posters,
the first poster reads "No, no, no",
the second one reads "No, no, no",
the third one reads "No, no, no".]

you have to be in proximity to each other
and on the same network
no rent
all your friends in walking distance
community space
public living room

Yeah,
damn,
I like this.
I haven't done this in years.
We will just accept this.
There will always be something,
really off.

[Image: a plaque on which it is written:
in 1981 the artist Wolfgang Temmel
erected a 17-metre-long rusty ramp
at night and without permission
as an access to the Kunsthalle for people with disabilities.
In 1983 -
and again at night -,
the protest installation was removed by the authorities.]

welding
soldering
sawing
sawing
sawing

we had wooden things, metal things,
but they broke recently
so we expect to go
frestyling again
when we want to print something bigger

raumwerk
a room to work
but then a T kind of emerged from somewhere

you can try to find the phrasing
- what?
If you remember the occasion
you can try to find the phrasing

It is possible,
but I've rarely done it

because
you can work on your dream, make them come true

• that's a good quote for the echostation

[sound: laughters]

[Image: A brutalist concrete building towers above.
High up, under a window,
someone has painted onto the building
"Scheisse Repressoren"
or "Fucking repressors".]

I think she was talking to you actually
There is a hook above your head.

I wonder about the security challanges:
I would like to find ways
for the authors of the site,
(me),
not to be in risk,
but also,
maybe,
the participants.

[Image: On the corner of a white table
A cardboard box
is installed with a metallic plate,
connected to a tiny circuit board,
connected to two small speakers,
connected to a smartphone.
With three laser points
hitting different surfaces.]

banana???
yes
banana plugs
they are called banana plugs

cool
wow
nice
impressive

I personally never used it
because I'm not good with electronic stuff

it's ok,
it's ok.

[Sound: A wooden pressure roller churns,
occasionally squeeking,
like a mouse,
from the pressure it is excerting.]

A steganographic audio file
and an SSTv file,
were transmitted.
On the
radiophone

• it is probably producing horrible recordings
  we'll see

You can either work with a mirror
but
I just
I taped it,

it was very very botchy,
we taped the screen to the glass,
and then we just walked out with it
into the sun.

One time it worked
another time it didn't work,
because there was one cloud.
it is hard to estimate
Like ...
it
can work.

[Image: a computer screen
in which you see a picture of two women with megaphones
standing on the pedestal of a statue
of the emperor Francisco the 1st of Austria.
The women are wearing black, orange and red clothes.
The picture is taken during a protest demonstration.]

I'm sorry.
just wanting
to show people.

wanting:
to express through
a permanent marker,
on the wall,
of a public space.
but then;
feeling that I cannot come up with anything intelligent to write,
nor funny,
and I abandon.

[Sound: a mechanic, metallic machine vibration
is heard across the room,
whilst soft piano music plays in the background.)

so, this one is a bit hidden
it is not really fabric but from trucks
why do you cover it?

for dust
it is sensitive to dust

it is going to be smelly
you know
smelly and dusty
I grew up with that
it is a bit starwars

it should have a switch between...
yeah maybe..
also you can activate and deactivate...
you can deactivate a screen?
aaahhh

it is dusty
yeah
it is selfmade,
you know
it's the age of dust

[sound: soft music of guitar playing in the background]
[a drum joins the guitar]
[somebody start singing too]

...
if you want to fix it
I won't stop you

eventually it will be possible
tomorrow
- yes
yes
I will be here

I would love to talk about this
most of the time you can just come by
Please drop by any time

[sound: birds chirping in the garden]
whisper: They're chirping!

THIS CONCLUDES THE ECHO

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ECHO OF TUESDAY 24rd of October:

Do you wanna
do you wanna
come in?
Sure.
Ok. So...welcome!

Here I am recycling myself
With the whole process,
it was very organic for me.

Let me begin there
and I don't know how it is going to develop
I grew a lot
growing with the big scale of this
bigger than body scale

Two fish speak to each other,
one mentions water,
the other one goes: - what the hell is water

Details,
that you only see if you go
close, close,
like this

[Sound: drops of rain falling on a roof and dripping to the ground.]

it is an image of a large animal
a sort of austrian cliché animal
can you see it now?

[Image: An illustration made by a multitude of neon lines,
depicting
a cyborg with a balaklava
and a spiked halo
who is holding a plackard
that reads "We are but one bitch".
Above their head, a sign says
"how to cypher sex:
A manual for collective, digital, self-defence guides".]

The justifications
Somehow if it is
"we are protecting women and children"
then no-one can disagree
But the result is so widespread
that there is no way
it is going to be able
to do the thing
that it says it is going to do.

I did not know
I did not know
about
this
section 2.30.E

[Sound: a chair scrapes on the floor.]

separating identities
and when possible
also separating devices
but there are strategies
to do
when you can not have
multiple devices

Do you have messaging apps?
Do you use certain messaging apps for work?
Do you use certain messaging apps for friends?
Think of the level of
personal closeness.

[Sounds:]
[dog barks]
[someone shushes]
[man says "Lula, aus!"]

Earlier this year
I was in a protest movement
against the chinese government
and I posted an anonymous email address online
and then
a journalist contacted me
and wanted to do an interview on Signal
But I did not want to use
my real phone number
in relation to this anonymous email account.

The level of closeness
and relation between service/accounts/identity:
using your official name,
work accounts,
private accounts,
in terms of the level of trust
that you give

[Sound: shuffling feet]

if we are making good tools we are making tools nobody is aware of
it makes it more accessible, it makes it easier to use,
but it's not necessarely good in an ethical sense.

for technologies to spread widely
they need to be invisible in the best possible ways
not noticible

the least clicks the better an interface ...
so
we are doing everything bad with the splinter
that's cool
we can adress this invisibility thing
to share later
our chosen 'badness'

[Sounds: many laughters, murmurs of appreciation]

in terms of power
when you are making things easier for people,
it means you are taking away certain difficulties

in some cases, people don't have to think on their own anymore
so they don't learn how it's done.

If you then don't provide the service
and people suddenly have to do it by themselves
they are kind of lost

it is one of the most controversial effects of caring for somebody

[Image: a grey creature, looking like something between a goat and a dragon,
is perched on a branch,
while a yellow-squared duck
is carrying a blue salamander on its back]

• I love the way the direction this conversation is taking!
• These are the things what we, designers, should worry about.
  ... it is very tricky to normalise the use of things.
• How can you make a keyboard invisible?
  when in reality everybody uses them in so many different ways,
  you can not make one invisible keyboard, it is impossible.
• I could not agreed more.

[Sound: drops of rain keep on falling on the plastic table in the garden]

I don't know
I don't know what I want to do

They say
it is too much business
other people
say it is too much art
it is hard
they do not know
how to handle us here
Everybody likes this project
Everybody wants this project
but nobody wants to pay for it

a whole network
all connected
allez, it's smooth

[Sound: somebody pealing a banana]

Should we slowly start walking towards lunch?

I'm cooking a soup
and I use the spoon to tell me the consistency of the soup
the actual sensation happens
in the palm of the hand that it is connected to the handle of the spoon
you integrate the spoon into your body.

do my fingers know more than I do?

the challenge would be
not to imagine
why someone would put a cup somewhere
but instead:
why is it a cup or a plate; could it be possible for a cup
to be in another material

What would you consider as a material?

what we take for granted
is constantly changing

[Sound: somebody blowing their nose]

It is interesting to think about how you do, what you do,..
It took me a while
It took me two months
It would have probably taken me less, if the weather conditions where different
...
but it was fun

[Sound: awful loud sound of metal, being dragged on the ground, by a machine]

This concludes the Echo

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ECHO OF MONDAY 23rd of October:

"somebody wants to speak?.. if anybody wants to start?"
"do you want to start?"

so now this just belongs to intro
this is a piece of text
very meaningful
& we don't exactly know how we will deal with it.
We just wanted to let you know that we think about it, we will probably try to sit down at some point.

Taking time to actually listen
Defining what listening is:
Usually we think that we listen through the ears only
But
we listen with the body,
complete.
as a complete unit
It is not just an action
There are ways of opening the understanding
for what listening is

Speaking for others and othering
The we and the non-we
The human not-human
It is unresolved
We
We ...
We have now tried with the We,
– it's a strange collective construction.
We have also tried with the You,
– it is terrible.
And the imperative?
– ...
The We is where we ended up,
Even if we're not completely convinced by We.
They?
– Then it doesn't include you too much?
It is unresolved
It is a question mark

[Sounds: ]
[noise of a lot of papers being handed out]
[lots of laughter]
[people talking at the same time]
[looooots of laughter]

keeping silent meant matching pace as an act of togetherness
not imposing your rhythms on others means the other needs to find confidence to alter or break their own pace
Allow the differences
collaboration and synchronicity
group dynamic can be overwhelming
gives silent voices more space and time

The act of being aware,
We take part with different backgrounds,
Not assume another person will understand exactly what you are talking about
Not make someone afraid to ask what is going on.
In connection with the care for physical and digital environment:
Realise, acknowledge and question
the assumptions of normativity of technology that we have.
But so when we propose diversions from this normativity;
we should have patience and generousity
while we share how things can work different
and allow different speeds to engage with it.

[Sound: shuffled steps]

• walking -- puts you in a different situation on the base of different bodies

body activity to source

The presence of devices
is not so much tackled

we are saying non-human agents
but we know there will be laptops, phones
and they are
all the time there.
How to make them present in an affective way?
The phone is ringing
normally that is interruptive
is it interruptive?
Maybe it is not interruptive?

dissolving of support networks
forms of dispossessions
mutual support
sister-organisations
bringing some praxis embodied through a suitcase

feeling chained to big network (instagram, etc) to share work, liking this idea of sharing
would like to have a way to share, maybe less internet connected, physical,
intimacy

A need for digital self defense

Not valuing only the technological discourse
in this space
but also the emotional discourse
To speak about imaginations

[Image: Three cats are sitting behind their connected computers,chatting to each other.]

There is no regular delete button here,
but there is a social delete button ...

disobedient behavior as an enrichment of use of public space.
disobedient behavior as an enrichment of use of public space:
Jamming, cranking, walking while listening reading sleeping as a first aid kit

A system of listeners.
Is it maybe something to come back to at the end of the day?
Is it maybe something to put in a first aid kit?

[Sound: many murmuring voices]

I would really like to know how confused you are?
Not really?
Yeah yeah yeah.
It depends.
A little.

This concludes the Echo.

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