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Tuesday 13 - 03 - 2024 - Day 2

10:30: Presentation of each other infrastructures

# Constant 
we have two spaces : office in rue du fort saint gilles + studio in Jette
Office is totally not physically accessible: toilets in the basement, entrance has a sharp step , but we do organised small events there.
We have the studio since 2 years, part of is used by different collectives and artists, the space on the ground floor is used for meetings, worksessions, workshops. It is a 9 years contract (very different from the precarious situations of the spaces that we shared before in the centre of Brussels, with exploitation of artists, centrifications, etc...).
Not yet accessible, this year we will work on it. Of course it is not a public space, we can invite people for events, but we are not bind by the same 'rules and restrictions' that regulated public spaces such as museum and theaters.
The renvation is going to happen thanks to a small funding from VGC. Since some year they try to support artists ateliers in Brussels.


# Museum Dr Guislain
Sarah and Kristine show a video. It was made for another project and it was to showed the museum to people with mental challenges.
In the beginnig it was the pnly building in the neighborhood in the '900 century. After they started to build other hospital buidlings, more and more, and also the neighbor h o o d expended. The last patients in the original hospital left in the 90s and now the old hospital is a museum. There are a lot of infrastructural problems.

Museum Guislain has  been moving around through the whole building  complex,
next project is the garden, paths outside etc
we make it a neighbourhood project, it will be a community garden 
in the inner court
denktank with museum and hospital, planning about it
the function of the garden was for usage from patients in the original plan already
unfortunately in the 1930s they decided to build a chapel right in the middle of the garden space, ruining it

the building is owned by the brothers of charity
it's shared between the museum and the hospital; they always have to negotiate the use of the different buildings

there is an elevator, all the corridors are large, being a hospital.. the problem is not moving through the space, it is not getting lost in its dense spaces!

## Guislain's current state of the space?
Waiting for the renovation of the hospital, to then move around the space. management have to negotiate.
Physical accessibility of spaces is generally starting from a good state as spaces are large, elevator is there, etc.
Expos there is always thinking with an architect that does the scenography.
Questions like positioning of text and vitrine always taken into account
Also for children there is thinking both to access the expo and to have playing space in the room, and not in a separate room
for an exhibition, they used the erfgoed and also app has been developed to have an augmented version, point the phone and receive some audio, movie ,etc
"findability" is part of accessibility.. maybe that needs still work (digitally and physically..)

# KAAI
very complex because the previous building at the canal is being renovated, the only thing that stays is the facade because it's 'protected'
Everything is gone, the only thing that is kept is the facade. The behind has been completely newly builty.
the theater (of 900 ppl) is gone, the entrance is gone etc. It's been two years of renovation + still two to go ere's still 2 years to go. 

From one big theater room,  to two  theater room s , one big and one with a capacity of 400ppl.
only one colleague is working on the 'werf', the whole chantier.. which is shared with KANAL, offering some space.
there is sometimes situations where a huge hole appears and it is not clear who made the hole!

at the moment there's several 'satelites' spce, 13 places in bxl and 3 spaces around bxl 
of these 13 spaces, there's two of their own: de kriekelaar and kaaistudio's 

Kriekelaar in Schaarbeek is where the offices of KAAI are, owned by VGC. It has a small theater space behind, for 200 people , recently renovated.
there is a lot of thinking about the new building, making it accessible, but this small one for example. has a lot of issues, entrances are not fine, obstacles in many places.

Second building Kaai Studios, in city center. smaller, with a theater space for 250 people. U sed as more of a resicendy space, dance studio, concert studio, penthouse 

sometimes it's hard to think about accessibility when you're in transition, being in de kriekelaar for two years but it's not 'our' building so difficult to ask for many changes 

looked at plans for the new building, not very good insight of how access was thought of for the new building 
14 supervisors! (from city, from kaai, from region..)

some thinking that architects did not include.. accessible doors for public but not for the artists backstage..

kaaistudio: there's no renovation planned eventho it's not accessible at all, it's a charming building but not thought for accessibility at all
elevator says "please don't take it, unless really necessary"

how do you commiunicate about access on the many buildings 
on the kaai website there's a page "accessibility" : https://kaaitheater.be/en/practical#accessibility
there's descriptions on how to get there, what is not possible; there's service mails:
    - already if not accessible by wheelchair that is made clear in the event page
    - people buy a ticket, and then they receive a mail explaining details about trigger warnings, access details etc, and if it's not okay for them they can respond and they will choose between taking another tickets or a refund. 
not everyone read the service mail, but normally that's where people would look for specific access needs..
> the problem is that the email comes after, for some people not seeing access details upfront, they would not engage, and asking is effort.
for trigger warnings for example some artists prefer to not put it upfront.

policy for subtitles/surtitles.. there need to be dutch version, being funded from flemish government

regarding test publics, something done by Guislain, too..
there will be transitioning period of half a year, once the building is ready, the plan is to not fill up the program too much, to leave some time for feedback from the production and the first attempts.

some initiatives can come from individual attempts, for example from ramadan friendly approach , going towards having a permanent quiet space which can be adapted to different groups of people 
between 3 and 7 evenings per week of performance 

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lunch break
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14:30
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Ritual from (Loren Britton & Isabel Paehr)CON(FUSE)ING AND RE(FUSING) BARRIERS

Ritual for bad listening: Take a piece of paper or your smartphone and for 5 minutes, write down every sound that you hear and/or sense (the humming of the heater, the chirping of a bird, the temperature in the room, the brightness of the light). Repeat this ritual in different settings if possible. When and where are you comfortable with listening/sensing? Do you listen/sense deeper with time? Are any of the things you hear/sense an access barrier for you or for someone you know? You can use this ritual as a way of checking in with a new space. This ritual is based on a text by Jonathan Smilges.
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Making signs tools:
https://observatory.db.erau.edu/generators/signs/
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For the kitchen...
- Recirculatie dampkap